Regular Session - February 12, 2024

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                  February 12, 2024

11                      3:15 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR JAMAAL T. BAILEY, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone present to please 

 5    rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Rabbi 

 9    Meir Pape, of Congregation Tifereth Israel, 

10    Jackson Heights, Queens, will deliver today's 

11    invocation.

12                 Rabbi?  

13                 RABBI MEIR PAPE:   Senators have a 

14    very difficult task in a world where upholding 

15    justice and morality is difficult because there 

16    is so much confusion.  It's never been like this, 

17    where the questions are asked, What is justice?  

18    What is morality?  

19                 They have to establish laws to 

20    distinguish good behavior from bad behavior, when 

21    the line between good behavior and bad behavior 

22    has become so blurred and unclear.  

23                 And it's a big responsibility.  

24    Their decisions can have -- can cause great 

25    benefits to humanity, to society, and can have 


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 1    negative ramifications.  And always on this 

 2    threshold between causing good and causing harm.  

 3    How can they deal with this responsibility?  How 

 4    can one be confident in making the right 

 5    decisions?  

 6                 But God gave you the task.  God 

 7    gives you the strength to fulfill the task.  Not 

 8    only the strength and the courage, but also the 

 9    guidance, the clarity, the moral compass to 

10    discern between right and wrong, between good and 

11    bad.

12                 Fortunately, God gave to Moses at 

13    Mt. Sinai seven laws known as the Noahide Laws, 

14    universally applicable to all of humanity, which 

15    provide a solid foundation and a clear framework 

16    for any legislative system.  

17                 In fact, this very session held 

18    right here in the Senate is actually the 

19    fulfillment of one of these seven laws:  That is 

20    the commandment to establish a legislative body, 

21    to form courts of justice and law enforcement 

22    which will uphold justice and peace, promote 

23    goodness and kindness.  

24                 And this is the sacred duty that 

25    lawmakers have, to be good caretakers of God's 


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 1    world, to make it a good place, a civilized and 

 2    harmonious place, a place where people can create 

 3    and contribute.  

 4                 We pray that God give you the 

 5    strength and the ability to carry out this task 

 6    in the best way possible.  And we pray that we 

 7    shall soon see the day when there will be no more 

 8    hunger and no more war, no more jealousy and no 

 9    more selfish competition.  For there will be good 

10    and abundance.  There will be enough for 

11    everyone.  

12                 And instead, humanity will occupy 

13    their energy, devote their energy to pursuing a 

14    higher goal.  Individuals will seek a connection 

15    with their Creator and pursue acts of goodness 

16    and kindness among one another.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Reading 

18    of the Journal.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Sunday, 

20    February 11, 2024, the Senate met pursuant to 

21    adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday, 

22    February 10, 2024, was read and approved.  On 

23    motion, the Senate adjourned.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Without 

25    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.


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 1                 Presentation of petitions.

 2                 Messages from the Assembly.

 3                 The Secretary will read.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Palumbo 

 5    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 6    Assembly Bill Number 8559 and substitute it for 

 7    the identical Senate Bill 8052, Third Reading 

 8    Calendar 190.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   So 

10    ordered.

11                 Messages from the Governor.

12                 Reports of standing committees.

13                 Reports of select committees.

14                 Communications and reports from 

15    state officers.

16                 Motions and resolutions.

17                 Senator Gianaris.

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good afternoon, 

19    Mr. President.  

20                 Let's return to motions and 

21    resolutions later.  And let's begin by taking up 

22    the reading of the calendar, please.  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

24    Secretary will read.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 19, 


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 1    Senate Print 8010, by Senator Brisport, an act to 

 2    amend the Family Court Act.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

 7    same manner as a chapter of the Laws of 2023.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 19, voting in the negative:  

15    Senator Oberacker.

16                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 1.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 59, 

20    Senate Print 8076, by Senator Parker, an act to 

21    amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

23    last section.  

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 55.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    184, Senate Print 8045, by Senator Walczyk, an 

11    act to amend the Highway Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

16    same manner as a chapter of the Laws of 2023.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


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 1    190, Assembly Print Number 8559, by 

 2    Assemblymember Thiele, an act to amend the 

 3    Environmental Conservation Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

 7    act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

 8    same manner as a chapter of the Laws of 2023.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    192, Senate Print 8058, by Senator Hoylman-Sigal, 

19    an act to amend the Family Court Act.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 10.  This 

23    act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

24    same manner as a chapter of the Laws of 2023.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 


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 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 192, those Senators voting in the 

 5    negative are Senators Ashby, Borrello, 

 6    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Felder, Gallivan, Helming, 

 7    Lanza, Martins, Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, 

 8    O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, 

 9    Tedisco, Weber and Weik.

10                 Ayes, 36.  Nays, 20.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    207, Senate Print 5830, by Senator Salazar, an 

15    act to amend the Correction Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.  

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


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 1    Calendar 207, those Senators voting in the 

 2    negative are Senators Borrello, Gallivan, 

 3    Helming, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Weber 

 4    and Weik.

 5                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 9.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    276, Senate Print 1081, by Senator Comrie, an act 

10    to amend the Public Authorities Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    284, Senate Print 3546, by Senator Kennedy, an 

25    act to amend the New York State Urban Development 


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 1    Corporation Act.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5    act shall take effect on the first of April.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

10    Kennedy to explain his vote.

11                 SENATOR KENNEDY:   Thank you, 

12    Mr. President.

13                 I rise to support this bill, the 

14    FRESH Act, as it's called, which stands for the 

15    Food Retail Establishment Subsidization for 

16    Healthy Communities Act.  I want to thank my 

17    colleagues for passing this in this house year 

18    after year.

19                 This bill deals with the eradication 

20    of food deserts in our communities across 

21    New York.  They're really exacerbated in urban 

22    communities, we've found, but they're in every 

23    community -- urban, rural, suburban.  There's 

24    millions, tens of millions of people that live in 

25    food deserts across our country, hundreds of 


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 1    thousands across our state.  

 2                 And while this bill isn't a fix-all, 

 3    it certainly moves us closer to closing the gap 

 4    in ensuring that individuals across all of our 

 5    communities have access to fresh, healthy food 

 6    options for themselves and their families.

 7                 Oftentimes these food deserts are in 

 8    underserved, low-income communities.  They're at 

 9    risk for diabetes and obesity in those 

10    communities.  Those communities are oftentimes 

11    reliant upon corner stores that don't have fresh 

12    food.  And so the options for individuals living 

13    in those neighborhoods, in those food deserts, 

14    are abysmal, to say the least.

15                 Furthermore, we know that this is as 

16    much of a civil rights issue as it is an issue 

17    dealing with one's own personal health.  On 

18    May 14th of 2022, a domestic racist terrorist 

19    went to Tops Friendly Markets on Jefferson Avenue 

20    in Buffalo in the heart of my city, my district, 

21    because it was the only full-service supermarket 

22    in the community.  That is where he massacred 

23    10 individuals because of the color of their 

24    skin.  But he knew they would be there because it 

25    was the only option.  


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 1                 That should not have ever been, and 

 2    it should not be anywhere moving forward.  All 

 3    New Yorkers deserve access to fresh foods 

 4    regardless of their zip code or socioeconomic 

 5    status.  

 6                 Through the passage and the 

 7    implementation of this act we will incentivize 

 8    opportunities for supermarkets to put down roots 

 9    in urban and rural areas that currently lack 

10    sufficient access to healthy food.  

11                 Mr. President, I vote aye.

12                 Thank you.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

14    Kennedy to be recorded in the affirmative.

15                 Senator Webb to explain her vote.

16                 SENATOR WEBB:   Thank you, 

17    Mr. President.  I rise to explain my vote.  

18                 I also would like to thank 

19    Senator Kennedy for introducing this legislation.  

20                 In my district I have significant 

21    challenges around food deserts.  Many of my 

22    constituents do not have access to healthy and 

23    nutritious fresh produce.  This means that many 

24    of the residents in my district -- not 

25    exclusively, but this is a statewide challenge -- 


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 1    however, in my district, which includes Broome, 

 2    Cortland and Tompkins counties, have limited to 

 3    no access to grocery stores, whether it's through 

 4    public transportation or even in walking 

 5    distance.

 6                 These families must rely heavily 

 7    upon corner and convenience stores, as 

 8    Senator Kennedy alluded to, which often charge 

 9    higher prices and do not offer fresh produce, 

10    meat and dairy that families need to provide 

11    healthy and nourishing meals at the dinner table.  

12                 By providing financial assistance 

13    through this legislation, which is helping to 

14    advance, to urban and rural supermarkets in 

15    underserved communities such as mine, this 

16    legislation will cut down on the number of food 

17    deserts across New York, ensuring that we have 

18    equitable access to fresh produce, meat and dairy 

19    products.

20                 Not only is this legislation good 

21    for families, it will also help on the economic 

22    development side as it pertains to our local and 

23    regional farmers and producers.  This also will 

24    help with improving public health outcomes, as we 

25    know that food access and lack thereof is an 


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 1    indicator of social determinants of health as it 

 2    pertains to chronic health issues.

 3                 Also, this legislation is good for 

 4    the planet because we can lower our greenhouse 

 5    gas emissions by making sure that the food we 

 6    grow and produce here in New York is sold and 

 7    enjoyed locally.  

 8                 I thank again Senator Kennedy for 

 9    introducing this legislation.  I proudly vote aye 

10    and encourage my colleagues to do the same.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

12    Webb to be recorded in the affirmative.

13                 Announce the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 284, voting in the negative:  

16    Senator Skoufis.

17                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 1.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    322, Senate Print 532, by Senator Thomas, an act 

22    to amend the Executive Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 


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 1    act shall take effect immediately.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 322, those Senators voting in the 

 9    negative are Senators Borrello, Felder, Gallivan, 

10    Griffo, Lanza, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Stec and 

11    Tedisco.

12                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 10.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    327, Senate Print 2449, by Senator Krueger, an 

17    act to amend the Executive Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect on the first of January.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 


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 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 327, those Senators voting in the 

 4    negative are Senators Ashby, Borrello, 

 5    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, 

 6    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 7    Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Weber and Weik.  

 8    Also Senator Martins.  

 9                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 18.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

13    reading of today's calendar.

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

15    Mr. President.  

16                 Returning to motions and 

17    resolutions, on page 30 I offer the following 

18    amendments to Calendar 342, Senate Print 4198A, 

19    by Senator Comrie, and ask that said bill retain 

20    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

22    amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

23    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

24                 Senator Gianaris.

25                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I believe 


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 1    there's a privileged resolution at the desk.  Can 

 2    we please take that up, read its title, and 

 3    recognize Senator Scarcella-Spanton.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

 5    a privileged resolution at the desk.

 6                 The Secretary will read.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1689, by 

 8    Senator Scarcella-Spanton, commemorating the 

 9    16th Anniversary of Kosovo's Independence.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

11    Scarcella-Spanton on the resolution.

12                 SENATOR SCARCELLA-SPANTON:   Thank 

13    you, Mr. President, and to my esteemed 

14    colleagues.  

15                 I want to make a very warm welcome 

16    to all our distinguished constituents and 

17    everyone else who joins us today to celebrate 

18    Kosovo's Independence Day in New York State.  

19                 Today marks a significant milestone 

20    in recognizing Kosovo's history in New York and 

21    their hard-won independence after years of 

22    perseverance.  Despite facing numerous challenges 

23    along the way, the people of Kosovo have shown 

24    remarkable resilience and determination, leading 

25    to this occasion.  


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 1                 The declaration of Kosovo's 

 2    independence in 2008 was a defining moment 

 3    representing not only the culmination of years of 

 4    struggle, but also a testament to the spirit of 

 5    its people.  As we reflect on Kosovo's journey, 

 6    we are reminded of the sacrifices made and the 

 7    challenges overcome in the pursuit of freedom and 

 8    self-determination.  

 9                 In conclusion, I am honored to 

10    sponsor this resolution honoring Kosovo's 

11    Independence Day.  

12                 And I want to just, from the bottom 

13    of my heart, thank you for those who came from 

14    near and far for this event.  It's incredibly 

15    special to have you all here.  I hope you enjoyed 

16    the celebration earlier.  And thank you so much.  

17                 I commend the resilience and 

18    determination of the Kosovar people.  Thank you 

19    for joining us today.

20                 (Applause from the gallery.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

22    Fernandez on the resolution.

23                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Faleminderit 

24    shumë {thank you very much}, Mr. President.

25                 I stand to also speak on this 


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 1    resolution of 16 amazing years of resilience, 

 2    pride, freedom of the Kosovan and Albanian 

 3    communities.  

 4                 I want to thank Senator 

 5    Scarcella-Spanton for the beautiful reception 

 6    today honoring our many leaders that for decades 

 7    have been speaking on the issue, 16 years ago 

 8    fighting, going to Washington and getting NATO, 

 9    under President Clinton, to finally help Kosovo 

10    become the nation that it is entitled to be.

11                 Today we did have a special guest, 

12    and he isn't here -- he couldn't stay long enough 

13    for me to give him a proper introduction and 

14    welcome.  But along with the many friends that 

15    have come from near and far, I do want to give a 

16    shout out to our former State Assemblymember, 

17    former City Councilmember, the great Mark Gjonaj, 

18    that came to celebrate this moment.  

19                 Because it is something to 

20    appreciate that New York State can continue to be 

21    a partner, the United States can continue to be a 

22    partner in making sure that Kosovo is properly 

23    recognized, protected, and that the struggles 

24    that continue are seen and made in awareness.

25                 I've had the honor and the privilege 


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 1    of visiting the beautiful country of Kosovo last 

 2    summer.  I visited Pristina, where we saw the 

 3    State Capitol and spoke with the Assembly about 

 4    what is the relationship, the tight, beautiful 

 5    relationship of New York and Kosovo.  

 6                 I visited Gjilan, which is a growing 

 7    city, still in economic boom, and you can see 

 8    everything is coming together while also looking 

 9    at what was there in the past and the destruction 

10    that happened in the past not too long ago.

11                 In addition, I visited Prizren, the 

12    oldest city in the Balkans.  It is important to 

13    know that Kosovo, the youngest country that we 

14    have 16 years, was actually the location and the 

15    birthplace of the oldest civilization in Europe, 

16    thousands of years ago.  It is the birthplace of 

17    Mother Teresa's parents.  

18                 And Mother Teresa, as we know, is a 

19    woman of the Balkans, born in Montenegro, citizen 

20    of Calcutta, and now is a saint in the Catholic 

21    Church.  She is an example of what has been 

22    happening for generations and generations in the 

23    land of Kosovo.  

24                 And it is only right that we stand 

25    here and recognize it and show our support to the 


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 1    community, to the Albanian community, that we 

 2    will always protect and take pride in what is 

 3    happening in Kosovo and what will happen as it 

 4    continues to flourish into the beautiful country 

 5    that it is.

 6                 Thank you.

 7                 (Applause from the gallery.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   To our 

 9    guests, let me first say "Urime" 

10    {congratulations}.  I welcome you on behalf of 

11    the Senate.  We extend to you the privileges and 

12    the courtesies of this house.  

13                 Please rise and be recognized.

14                 (Standing ovation.)

15                 ("Thank you" from gallery.) 

16                 (Laughter.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

18    Gianaris.

19                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

20    is there any further business at the desk? 

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Oh, 

22    excuse me.  Wait, I'm sorry.  

23                 The question is on the resolution.  

24    All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

25                 (Response of "Aye.")


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 2    resolution is adopted.

 3                 Senator Gianaris.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there any 

 5    further business at the desk?

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

 7    no further business at the desk.

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to 

 9    adjourn until tomorrow, Tuesday, February 13th, 

10    at 3:00 p.m.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Upon 

12    motion, the Senate is adjourned until Tuesday, 

13    February 13th, at 3:00 p.m.

14                 (Whereupon, at 3:37 p.m., the Senate 

15    adjourned.)

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