Regular Session - May 16, 2024

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                    May 16, 2024

11                     11:10 a.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR ROXANNE J. PERSAUD, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone to please rise and 

 5    recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.  

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Reading 

14    of the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, 

16    Wednesday, May 15, 2024, the Senate met pursuant 

17    to adjournment.  The Journal of Tuesday, May 14, 

18    2024, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

19    Senate adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.

24                 The Secretary will read.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator 


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 1    Scarcella-Spanton moves to discharge, from the 

 2    Committee on Cultural Affairs, Tourism, Parks and 

 3    Recreation, Assembly Bill Number 8982A and 

 4    substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

 5    Number 8469A, Third Reading Calendar 742.

 6                 Senator Martinez moves to discharge, 

 7    from the Committee on Finance, Assembly Bill 

 8    Number 8993 and substitute it for the identical 

 9    Senate Bill 8473, Third Reading Calendar 924.

10                 Senator Krueger moves to discharge, 

11    from the Committee on Finance, Assembly Bill 

12    Number 9711 and substitute it for the identical 

13    Senate Bill 8898, Third Reading Calendar 927.

14                 Senator Mayer moves to discharge, 

15    from the Committee on Investigations and 

16    Government Operations, Assembly Bill Number 9394 

17    and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

18    Number 8800, Third Reading Calendar 1050.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   So 

20    ordered.

21                 Messages from the Governor.

22                 Reports of standing committees.

23                 Reports of select committees.

24                 Communications and reports from 

25    state officers.


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 1                 Motions and resolutions.

 2                 Senator Gianaris.

 3                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good morning, 

 4    Madam President.  

 5                 On behalf of Senator Parker, I wish 

 6    to call up Senate Print 1200A, recalled from the 

 7    Assembly, which is now at the desk.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 9    Secretary will read.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    215, Senate Print 1200A, by Senator Parker, an 

12    act to amend the Public Service Law.

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to 

14    reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

16    Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 55.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

20    is restored to its place on the Third Reading 

21    Calendar.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I offer the 

23    following amendments.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

25    amendments are received.


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 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I, also on 

 2    behalf of Senator Parker, wish to offer the 

 3    following amendments on page 29 to Calendar 445, 

 4    Senate Print 8402, and ask that said bill retain 

 5    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 7    amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

 8    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 9                 Senator Gianaris.

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please recognize 

11    Senator Lanza for a motion.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

13    Lanza.

14                 SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

15    Senator Gianaris.

16                 Madam President, on behalf of 

17    Senator Griffo, on page 46 I offer the following 

18    amendments to Calendar Number 769, Senate Print 

19    8884, and ask that said bill retain its place on 

20    Third Reading Calendar.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

22    amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

23    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

24                 Senator Gianaris.

25                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please take up 


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 1    previously adopted Resolution 2092, by 

 2    Senator Griffo, read its title and recognize 

 3    Senator Griffo.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 5    Secretary will read.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 2092, by 

 7    Senator Griffo, congratulating the Utica-Notre 

 8    Dame High School Girls Basketball Team upon the 

 9    occasion of capturing the New York State Public 

10    High School Athletic Association Basketball 

11    Class B Championship on March 16, 2024.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

13    Griffo on the resolution.

14                 SENATOR GRIFFO:   Thank you, 

15    Madam President.  

16                 Before I do that, I also want to 

17    extend an acknowledgment -- and I know we've had 

18    the permission of the leader to acknowledge a 

19    young man and his mom.  I have with us Ed Hollman 

20    and his mom Claire.  

21                 Ed is a middle-school student from 

22    Cazenovia, a 13-year-old who is very engaged in 

23    our process, and Senator Mayer would know that.  

24    He was concerned about cuts to education, so he 

25    circulated petitions in support of the efforts 


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 1    that Senator Mayer led.  

 2                 But I think this is an illustration 

 3    of an industrious young man who really cares and 

 4    was energized, paying attention and got involved.  

 5                 So I want to acknowledge Eddie and 

 6    his mom Claire today.  I think they're in the 

 7    chamber.  So if Eddie and Claire are there, if 

 8    they could just stand.  There you go.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   To our 

10    guests, Eddie and his mom, we welcome you on 

11    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

12    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

13                 Please continue standing and be 

14    recognized.

15                 (Standing ovation.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

17    Griffo.

18                 SENATOR GRIFFO:   On the resolution, 

19    Madam President.  

20                 We are very fortunate to have with 

21    us a group of young ladies who probably, if 

22    anybody's ever seen Hoosiers, this would be an 

23    illustration of that -- and I'm glad to see 

24    Senator Breslin is with me right now -- because 

25    these young ladies had a very challenging year, 


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 1    but they were worked hard under their coaching 

 2    staff, and together.  

 3                 And as a result of that, they were 

 4    able to not only continue to move through the 

 5    season but ultimately reach the state 

 6    championship round, where they were -- they 

 7    fought tenaciously and they were behind at 

 8    halftime, but they were taking on the top seed 

 9    Albany Academy.  

10                 And they took on a very significant 

11    opponent, and it was a significant challenge.  

12    But they continued with their 24-and-3 record 

13    this year to ultimately win that championship and 

14    to beat Albany Academy in the state finals.

15                 So today we are joined in the 

16    chamber with these student athletes, their 

17    coaches -- many of their family members are with 

18    them also -- from Notre Dame High School in 

19    Utica, New York.  And proud to have them there.  

20                 These young ladies, not only are 

21    they extraordinary athletes, but they're talented 

22    students too.  And they were a great reflection 

23    of our community.  They carried themselves 

24    respectfully, and they played hard.  And I think 

25    and we all know that when we reach this type of a 


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 1    championship and you win a state championship, 

 2    you're making lasting friendships and you're 

 3    having not only great memories, but you're going 

 4    to take many of the things that you learned and 

 5    applied during the season to help you throughout 

 6    your life's journey.  And I think that's the 

 7    great thing here.  

 8                 So we're very proud of the young 

 9    ladies.  We want to thank the coaching staff.  I 

10    know we're here with Head Coach John Snyder, 

11    Assistant Coaches Tom Pederson and Gillian 

12    Keeler, along with families.

13                 So, Madam President, I would ask 

14    that you recognize the Lady Jugglers, who are 

15    state champions, and that we extend the 

16    privileges of the house to them.

17                 Thank you.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   To our 

19    guests, the Utica-Notre Dame High School Girls 

20    Basketball Team and your entire coaching staff, 

21    we welcome you on behalf of the Senate.  We 

22    extend to you the privileges and courtesies of 

23    this house.  

24                 Please rise and be recognized.

25                 (Standing ovation.)


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 2    Serrano.

 3                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

 4    Madam President.  

 5                 Let's take up previously adopted 

 6    Resolution 2408, by Senator Helming, read that 

 7    title only, and call on Senator Helming.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 9    Secretary will read.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 2408, by 

11    Senator Helming, congratulating Braidon Woodward 

12    upon the occasion of capturing the 170-pound 

13    Division Wrestling Title at the New York State 

14    Public High School Athletic Association Boys 

15    Wrestling Championships on February 24, 2024.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

17    Helming on the resolution.

18                 SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

19    Madam President.  

20                 I am very excited to welcome to the 

21    Senate chamber outstanding student athlete 

22    Braidon Woodward.  Braidon is a senior at 

23    Palmyra-Macedon.  He's joined today in the 

24    gallery with his parents, Mike and Hillary, his 

25    sister Allison, as well as Director of Athletics 


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 1    Tom Schmandt and Assistant Wrestling Coach 

 2    John Burgess.  

 3                 In February, Braidon earned the 

 4    title of State Champion during the New York State 

 5    Public High School Athletic Association Wrestling 

 6    Championships, which were held right here in 

 7    Albany.

 8                 Braidon entered the tournament as a 

 9    number-one overall seed in the 170-pound 

10    division.  But Braidon's journey was not an easy 

11    one.  This year, his senior year, was a year of 

12    challenges.  He entered a new school district and 

13    joined a new team.  But Braidon embraced these 

14    challenges and he really, really persevered.

15                 He carries a strong academic average 

16    and he achieved, in his wrestling career, a 

17    54-to-one overall record.  The lone loss this 

18    year came early in the season, a loss that 

19    Braidon said inspired and motivated him.  When 

20    asked about winning the championship title, 

21    Braidon simply said:  "I'm just happy to be a 

22    Red Raider.  It was an awesome season."

23                 To Braidon's family, to the school 

24    leaders who are here, to his coaching staff, I 

25    want to thank you for your support of Braidon and 


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 1    for giving him the encouragement that he needed 

 2    to be successful.  Coach Burgess, I want to thank 

 3    you and Head Coach Ed Schafer, who was named 

 4    Coach of the Year, for welcoming Braidon with 

 5    open arms to his new group of teammates and to 

 6    the new school district.

 7                 Braidon credits his ability to win 

 8    to the work ethic instilled in him by his 

 9    coaches.  The lessons learned from this season, 

10    both on and off the mat, will serve Braidon and 

11    his teammates throughout their lifetime.  

12                 Braidon, please know that you've 

13    made our community and you've made this state 

14    very proud with all of your accomplishments.  I'm 

15    really excited, we're all really excited to see 

16    where your journey goes from here.  I look 

17    forward to watching your career at the University 

18    of Buffalo.  And Senator Griffo pointed out to me 

19    that you're hoping to make it to MMA.  So good 

20    luck with that, and we look forward to watching 

21    you.

22                 Madam President, I'm proud to 

23    sponsor this resolution and to vote aye.

24                 Thank you.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   To our 


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 1    guests, Braidon Woodward and your support team, 

 2    we welcome you on behalf of the Senate.  We 

 3    extend to you the privileges and courtesies of 

 4    this house.  Please continue to rise and be 

 5    recognized.

 6                 (Standing ovation.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 8    Serrano.

 9                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Madam President, 

10    please take up previously adopted 

11    Resolutions 2072, 2075, 2203, read them together, 

12    title only, and recognize Senator Ashby.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

14    Secretary will read.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 2072, by 

16    Senator Ashby, congratulating the Columbia 

17    High School Girls Bowling Team upon the occasion 

18    of capturing the 2024 New York State Public 

19    High School Athletic Association Bowling 

20    Championship on March 10, 2024.

21                 Resolution 2075, by Senator Ashby, 

22    congratulating Elle Hutton of Columbia High 

23    School upon the occasion of capturing the 

24    2024 New York State Public High School Athletic 

25    Association Girls Wrestling Championship for the 


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 1    185-pound weight class on January 26, 2024.  

 2                 Resolution 2203, also by 

 3    Senator Ashby, congratulating Ragan Retell upon 

 4    the occasion of capturing of the 126-pound 

 5    Section II New York State Public High School 

 6    Athletic Association Girls Wrestling Invitational 

 7    Championship on January 26, 2024.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 9    Ashby on the resolutions.

10                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Thank you, 

11    Madam President.

12                 It's a real privilege today to be 

13    able to congratulate so many young champions from 

14    the 43rd Senate District.  

15                 Today I welcome the Columbia High 

16    School Girls Bowling Team, recent state 

17    champions; Ragan Retell from Tamarack High 

18    School, New York State wrestling champion; and 

19    Elle Hutton, Columbia High School wrestling 

20    champion.  

21                 And I had the opportunity to talk 

22    with them briefly before the proceedings today, 

23    and these are just outstanding young people from 

24    this district.  And they do a fantastic job, and 

25    I know that it has a lot to do with the families 


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 1    that may be here today joining them, and their 

 2    coaches.  

 3                 And I wish that you would present 

 4    them all the cordialities of the house.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   To our 

 6    guests, the Columbia High School Girls Bowling 

 7    Team, Columbia High School Girls Wrestling Team, 

 8    and Ragan Retell, we welcome you on behalf of the 

 9    Senate.  We extend to you all the privileges and 

10    courtesies of this house.  

11                 Please rise and be recognized.

12                 (Standing ovation.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

14    Serrano.

15                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you.

16                 Let's please take up previously 

17    adopted Resolution 2258, by Senator 

18    Hoylman-Sigal, read that resolution title only, 

19    and call on Senator Hoylman-Sigal.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

21    Secretary will read.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 2258, by 

23    Senator Hoylman-Sigal, mourning the death of 

24    Ava Conklin, beloved daughter and sister, bright 

25    student, and cherished friend to many.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 2    Hoylman-Sigal on the resolution.

 3                 SENATOR HOYLMAN-SIGAL:   Thank you, 

 4    Madam President.

 5                 We are joined here today by a family 

 6    under some somber circumstances, the loved ones 

 7    of Ava Conklin, an exceptional young woman from 

 8    my Senate district on the West Side of Manhattan, 

 9    the heart of Hell's Kitchen, whose life was 

10    tragically cut short last June.

11                 Ava was only 19 years old.  Ava was 

12    a daughter, a sister, a friend, an incredibly 

13    bright student, and a beloved member of our 

14    community.  

15                 She was known to all as an eternally 

16    happy spirit with boundless generosity that 

17    manifested through her many relationships.

18                 She loved the performing arts and 

19    theater and Broadway -- after all, she lived just 

20    steps from the Great White Way.  She loved ice 

21    cream, travels, animals, the earth, music, 

22    especially the Beatles.  

23                 Ava was a student at Northern 

24    Vermont University, where she was pursuing a 

25    degree in psychology.  She loved school and had a 


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 1    real eagerness for learning.  In her family's 

 2    words, Madam President, Ava had an old soul but a 

 3    child's heart.

 4                 The loss of Ava is felt not only by 

 5    those who knew and loved her personally; it is a 

 6    profound loss that is felt all throughout 

 7    New York City, from Hell's Kitchen to the 

 8    Rockaways, where she spent so much time.

 9                 And I want to recognize my dear 

10    colleague Assemblymember Pheffer Amato who is 

11    here with the family in the gallery.

12                 But this is a loss for the entire 

13    State of New York.  So today I'm so grateful that 

14    this legislative body will pause in our 

15    deliberation to remember and honor the life of 

16    Ava Conklin, whose bright light continues to 

17    shine and shares its warmth with all of us.

18                 Thank you, Madam President.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   To our 

20    guests, the family of Ava Conklin, our 

21    condolences to you.

22                 I welcome you on behalf of the 

23    Senate.  We extend to you the privileges and 

24    courtesies of this house.  

25                 Please rise and be recognized.


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 1                 (Standing ovation.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 3    Serrano.

 4                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Please call on 

 5    Senator Scarcella-Spanton for an introduction.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 7    Scarcella-Spanton for an introduction.

 8                 SENATOR SCARCELLA-SPANTON:   Thank 

 9    you.

10                 I rise today to recognize an 

11    incredible woman, constituent, and someone I am 

12    lucky to call a friend, Lucy Mujica Díaz.  

13                 I have had the pleasure of knowing 

14    Lucy for many years now.  And as her tenure as 

15    chair of Community Board 13 comes to an end, it 

16    is my privilege to have her join me here in 

17    Albany today.  

18                 Upon moving to Coney Island in 1990, 

19    Lucy became one of its fiercest advocates.  And 

20    anybody who knows Lucy knows that is absolutely 

21    true.  From local PTAs to the Coney Island 

22    Beautification Project to the 60 Community 

23    Precinct Council and, perhaps most famously, 

24    Community Board 13, Lucy has been serving her 

25    community for over 34 years.  People from across 


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 1    Coney Island and Brighton Beach know that they 

 2    can always turn to Lucy for assistance, 

 3    resources, and the latest news about what's 

 4    happening in their own backyards.  

 5                 Our communities are very lucky to 

 6    have a fighter like her, and I would like to 

 7    thank her for everything that she's done, 

 8    continues to do.  And thank you for always being 

 9    a resource to me.  It's always interesting, you 

10    know, representing two different boroughs, so you 

11    are my go-to in Brooklyn for all things Coney 

12    Island and Brighton Beach.  

13                 I appreciate you from the bottom of 

14    my heart, and welcome to Albany, Lucy.  Please 

15    rise to be recognized.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   To our 

17    guest, Lucy Mujica Díaz, I welcome you on behalf 

18    of the Senate.  We extend to you the privileges 

19    and courtesies of this house.  

20                 Please rise and be recognized.

21                 (Standing ovation.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

23    Serrano.

24                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you.  

25                 Let's take up previously adopted 


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 1    Resolution 2400, by Senator Mayer, please read 

 2    that resolution title only and call on 

 3    Senator Ramos.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 5    Secretary will read.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 2400, by 

 7    Senator Mayer, memorializing Governor Kathy 

 8    Hochul to proclaim April 28, 2024, as Workers' 

 9    Memorial Day in the State of New York.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

11    Ramos on the resolution.

12                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Thank you, 

13    Madam President.  

14                 I want to start by thanking 

15    Senator Mayor for introducing this very important 

16    resolution.  

17                 In the aftermath of the Tops 

18    shooting, surviving workers and other retail 

19    workers came to me with their demand for the law 

20    to take their safety seriously.

21                 And we know all workers want that.  

22    Too many workers in New York get injured on the 

23    job or, worse, they never make it back home at 

24    the end of their shift.

25                 Forty-four workers died on the job 


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 1    in New York State in 2023.  They were:  

 2                 Jonathan Diller, an NYPD officer; 

 3                 Sara McNally, bartender; 

 4                 Juan Ildefonso; 

 5                 Tamay Ganzi, construction worker; 

 6                 Nazim Berry, a bodega worker; 

 7                 Hilarion Joseph, an MTA worker, 

 8    TWU Local 100; 

 9                 Frederick Whiteside, FDNY EMT, 

10    AFSCME Local 2507; 

11                 Francisco Lumbreras, cement truck 

12    driver, Teamsters Local 282; 

13                 Krystnyna Naprawa, school crossing 

14    guard, DC-37 Local 372; 

15                 Dale West, handyman; 

16                 Bernardo Gonzalez Perez, a 

17    supermarket worker; 

18                 Bassam Khateeb, a deli owner; 

19                 Michael Rodriguez, NYC DEP; 

20                 Kevin Rawlings, a software engineer; 

21                 Olivia Mills, a postal service 

22    worker; 

23                 Andrés Santiago Goana, a delivery 

24    worker; 

25                 Endy Donaldo González Gómez, a 


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 1    delivery worker; 

 2                 Marco Antonio Betancurt, a delivery 

 3    worker; 

 4                 Cesar Linares Moralez, a delivery 

 5    worker; 

 6                 Juan Aguilar Rosas, a delivery 

 7    worker; 

 8                 Marcos Alcantara Hernandez, a 

 9    delivery worker; 

10                 Alex Patricio Gualotuña Taco, a 

11    construction worker; 

12                 Peng Cheng Li, a delivery worker; 

13                 Salvatore Simone, an HVAC 

14    contractor; 

15                 Robert Larsen, a welder with 

16    Steamfitters Local 63; 

17                 Salimul Hoque, a construction 

18    worker; 

19                 Edwin Hermindo Cevantes Felipe, a 

20    construction worker; 

21                 Yong Chin Son, a construction worker 

22    with Laborers Local 78; 

23                 Victor Sohom, a construction worker; 

24                 Mairena Bismarck, a construction 

25    superintendent; 


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 1                 Juan Guzman Angamarca, a 

 2    construction worker; 

 3                 Zhen Zhi Cao, a construction worker; 

 4                 Alexis Avelar Alvarado, a 

 5    construction worker; 

 6                 Kawan Edwards, a highway maintenance 

 7    worker; 

 8                 Tayron Masache Tandazo, a window 

 9    washer; 

10                 Mario Garcia, a delivery worker; 

11                 Victor Manuel Genoa, a delivery 

12    worker; 

13                 Francisco Maria Cristobal, a 

14    delivery worker; 

15                 Maynor Alfredo Capir Velasquez, a 

16    delivery worker; 

17                 Mariano Victoriano, a delivery 

18    worker; 

19                 Juan Romero Vazquez, a delivery 

20    worker; 

21                 Juan Francisco Jeronimo, a delivery 

22    worker; 

23                 And an unidentified delivery worker.  

24                 In their honor, the labor movement 

25    continues to advocate for the passage of four 


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 1    bills:  TEMP, the Retail Workers Safety Act; 

 2    Warehouse Worker Injury Reduction Act; and the 

 3    Nail Salon Minimum Standards Council.  

 4                 Madam President, we mourn the dead 

 5    and we fight like hell for the living.  

 6                 Thank you.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 8    you, Senator Ramos.

 9                 Senator Mayer on the resolution.

10                 SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

11    Madam President.  

12                 And thank you, Senator Ramos, for 

13    making sure that we remember we are talking about 

14    individuals who have real lives in our 

15    communities who were lost from accidents at work.  

16                 And the point of this resolution is 

17    to draw attention to the need for a very strong 

18    response to ensure safety at work, particularly 

19    for our immigrant community, who are frequently 

20    at greatest risk, and to call on every element of 

21    the law enforcement community, our district 

22    attorneys, our Department of Labor, our 

23    Governor's office, and everyone else who has the 

24    authority to crack down on unsafe working 

25    conditions -- to do so and do so aggressively.  


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 1                 These are our neighbors.  These are 

 2    our friends.  These are people that all of us 

 3    depend on to do the essential work of our 

 4    communities, and yet they are at such grave 

 5    risk -- not only of injury but of death.  

 6                 And so today and every day, we honor 

 7    them.  But Workers' Memorial Day is a tribute to 

 8    their lives and a reminder that we have much more 

 9    to do.

10                 I vote aye.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

12    you, Senator.  

13                 The resolutions were previously 

14    adopted.

15                 Senator Serrano.

16                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you.  

17                 At the request of the sponsors, the 

18    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

20    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.  Should 

21    you choose not to be a cosponsor, please notify 

22    the desk.

23                 Senator Serrano.

24                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Now let's please 

25    take up the reading of the calendar.  


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 2    Secretary will read.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    273, Senate Print 5286, by Senator Parker, an act 

 5    to amend the Executive Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

14    the results.  

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 273, those Senators voting in the 

17    negative are Senators Borrello, 

18    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Griffo, Lanza, Oberacker, 

19    O'Mara, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

20                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 10.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    468, Senate Print 2690, by Senator Breslin, an 

25    act to amend the General Municipal Law.


                                                               4028

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    479, Senate Print 2515C, by Senator Ramos, an act 

15    to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

20    shall have become a law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

25    Ramos to explain her vote.


                                                               4029

 1                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Thank you.

 2                 There have been eight children 

 3    killed by cars in the past five months in 

 4    New York City.  Three of them were in Queens.

 5                 Bayron Palomino Arroyo, just eight 

 6    years old, was walking with his family on 

 7    100th Street and 31st Avenue in East Elmhurst.  A 

 8    driver with four previous arrests related to 

 9    reckless driving didn't yield to the family while 

10    turning and hit and killed Bayron with his car.

11                 Queens has had 18 fatalities so far 

12    in 2024, tied for its most dangerous year at this 

13    point in 2023.

14                 Bayron was the 750th person killed 

15    in Queens since Vision Zero was launched in 

16    New York City 10 years ago.  More than half of 

17    the children killed in the last two years were 

18    killed in Queens, and most were killed near their 

19    schools.  

20                 This is an emergency.  Two hundred 

21    of my neighbors marched through our community 

22    with two demands of this body:  Pass Sammy's Law 

23    and pass scramble crosswalks.  I'm proud that our 

24    house has now been able to deliver on both of 

25    those demands.  And now this bill is dedicated to 


                                                               4030

 1    the children of my district and of all Queens.

 2                 Thank you.  I vote aye.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 4    Ramos to be recorded in the affirmative.

 5                 Announce the results.  

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    500, Senate Print 1424A, by Senator Bailey, an 

11    act to amend the Executive Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

15    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

16    shall have become a law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 500, those Senators voting in the 

24    negative are Senators Borrello, Griffo, Helming, 

25    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt and Stec.


                                                               4031

 1                 Ayes, 48.  Nays, 8.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    600, Senate Print 6926, by Senator Mannion, an 

 6    act to amend the Transportation Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    685, Senate Print 8173, by Senator Bailey, an act 

22    to amend the Correction Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               4032

 1    act shall take effect immediately.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 6    Borrello to explain his vote.

 7                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

 8    Madam President.  

 9                 While I understand the goal of this 

10    bill, my concern comes from the fact that we are 

11    doing something for someone who has committed a 

12    crime, more than we would do for a law-abiding 

13    citizen.  

14                 So I'll be voting no.  Thank you.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

16    Borrello to be recorded in the negative.

17                 Announce the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19    Calendar 685, those Senators voting in the 

20    negative are Senators Borrello, Gallivan, Griffo, 

21    Helming, Lanza, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 

22    Stec and Weik.

23                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 11.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               4033

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    713, Senate Print 139C, by Senator Ryan, an act 

 3    to amend the Uniform Justice Court Act.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 7    act shall take effect on the first of January.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

12    Ryan to explain his vote.

13                 SENATOR RYAN:   Thank you, 

14    Madam President.  

15                 So there's a quirk in our justice 

16    system in New York State that's created a 

17    two-tier justice system.  Everybody's under this 

18    perception that if you're a judge, why of course 

19    you're a lawyer.  But that's really not true.  

20                 In OCA courts, Office of Court 

21    Administration, those judges are lawyers.  

22                 There's 1200 other courts in 

23    New York State.  Through the town court justice 

24    system, courts have broad jurisdiction -- 

25    traffic, felony arraignments, small claims, 


                                                               4034

 1    misdemeanors.  But they're not lawyers.  

 2                 And anyone who's a lawyer in the 

 3    room would remember Gideon v. Wainwright, where 

 4    the Supreme Court said in criminal proceedings 

 5    the potential deprivation of liberty is so 

 6    serious that you have to have a lawyer to be 

 7    represented.

 8                 But I don't know if they ever paused 

 9    to think that some of the people that the lawyer 

10    would be arguing in front of aren't even lawyers 

11    themselves.  

12                 So this bill would take the 100 

13    busiest courts in New York State, under the town 

14    court system, and make it so those are lawyers.  

15    A pretty simple fix.  

16                 I often hear in response to this:  

17    Well, some of those areas don't have lawyers 

18    living in that jurisdiction.  So we intentionally 

19    crafted it for only the 100 busiest courts.  And 

20    if you look at a map of where those courts are, 

21    the busiest courts, and you overlay that with 

22    maps of localities with the highest concentration 

23    of attorneys, you would think you're looking at 

24    the same map.  

25                 So we're going to easily be able to 


                                                               4035

 1    put attorneys in every one of those spots.  

 2    New York is one of the only few states in the 

 3    Union that allows non-attorney judges to sentence 

 4    people to jail.  So it's a commonsense solution 

 5    to a problem that people who put this system in 

 6    place back in the early 1700s -- it might have 

 7    made sense then.  It didn't make sense now.  

 8                 So we've talked to people around the 

 9    state about this, we've considered all the 

10    potential downsides, we've taken steps to 

11    alleviate those concerns.  And it's about time 

12    that in New York State we don't have a two-tier 

13    justice system, we have a one-tier justice system 

14    where every defendant not only has a right to 

15    counsel but has a right to appear in front of a 

16    judge who is also a counsel.

17                 I proudly vote aye.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

19    Ryan to be recorded in the affirmative.

20                 Announce the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 713, those Senators voting in the 

23    negative are Senators Borrello, 

24    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

25    Martins, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 


                                                               4036

 1    Stec, Tedisco, Weber and Weik.

 2                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 15.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    723, Senate Print 8707, by Senator Bailey, an act 

 7    to amend the Education Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

12    same manner as Chapter 733 of the Laws of 2023.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    742, Assembly Print Number 8982A, by 

23    Assemblymember Fall, an act to amend the 

24    Navigation Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 


                                                               4037

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    867, Senate Print 4407, by Senator Fernandez, an 

14    act to amend the Executive Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               4038

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    868, Senate Print 4999B, by Senator Helming, an 

 4    act to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    878, Senate Print 4863A, by Senator Cooney, an 

19    act to amend the Insurance Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

24    shall have become a law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 


                                                               4039

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    921, Senate Print 5853A, by Senator Krueger, an 

10    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

19    the results.  

20                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21    Calendar 921, those Senators voting in the 

22    negative are Senators Gallivan, Griffo, Murray, 

23    Ortt and Stec.  Excuse me, Senator Stec in the 

24    affirmative.  

25                 Ayes, 53.  Nays, 4.


                                                               4040

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    924, Assembly Bill Number 8993, by 

 5    Assemblymember Thiele, an act to amend the 

 6    County Law.  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 8    last section.  

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    927, Assembly Bill Number 9711, by 

21    Assemblymember Zebrowski, an act to amend the 

22    State Finance Law.

23                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Lay it 

25    aside.


                                                               4041

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    933, Senate Print 3571, by Senator Skoufis, an 

 3    act to amend the Labor Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 9    roll.  

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 933, voting in the negative:  

15    Senator Oberacker.

16                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 1.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    957, Senate Print 8366, by Senator Ryan, an act 

21    to amend Chapter 560 of the Laws of 1998.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

25    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 


                                                               4042

 1    shall have become a law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 957, those Senators voting in the 

 9    negative are Senators Borrello, 

10    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

11    Martinez, Martins, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

12    Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, 

13    Weber and Weik.

14                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 18.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    963, Senate Print 314A, by Senator Salazar, an 

19    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               4043

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 963, those Senators voting in the 

 4    negative are Senators Borrello, 

 5    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

 6    Krueger, Lanza, Martins, Murray, Oberacker, 

 7    O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Weber and 

 8    Weik.

 9                 Ayes, 40.  Nays, 17.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    979, Senate Print 3473A, by Senator Stavisky, an 

14    act to amend the Education Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               4044

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1001, Senate Print 3348, by Senator Fernandez, an 

 4    act to amend the Public Health Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect on the first of January.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1050, Assembly Bill Number 9394, by 

19    Assemblymember Burdick, an act to amend the 

20    Tax Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 


                                                               4045

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 1050, those Senators voting in the 

 7    negative are Senators Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chu, 

 8    Harckham, Hinchey, Mannion, Martinez, Palumbo, 

 9    Scarcella-Spanton, Skoufis, Webb and Weik.

10                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 11.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 Senator Serrano, that completes the 

14    reading of today's calendar.

15                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Can we please go 

16    to the reading of the controversial calendar.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

18    Secretary will ring the bell.

19                 The Secretary will read.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    927, Assembly Bill Number 9711, by 

22    Assemblymember Zebrowski, an act to amend the 

23    State Finance Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

25    O'Mara, why do you rise?


                                                               4046

 1                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Madam President, 

 2    will the sponsor yield for some questions.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

 4    sponsor yield?

 5                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   I'd be delighted 

 6    to, Madam President.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.

 9                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Good morning, 

10    Senator.

11                 This bill has to do with the 

12    sourcing -- or avoiding the sourcing of tropical 

13    hardwoods.  There are a variety of federal and 

14    even international legislation and agreements 

15    that deal with this, such as the Lacey Act and 

16    the CITES international agreement, the Convention 

17    on International Trade in Endangered Species of 

18    Wild Fauna and Flora.  

19                 Why do we need to exceed those 

20    agreements and federal laws with a separate 

21    program here in New York?

22                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you, 

23    Madam President.  This bill is actually about far 

24    more than trees from tropical rainforests, even 

25    though it does have the catchy title "trees."  I 


                                                               4047

 1    do hope you like the new title of the bill.

 2                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Very nice.

 3                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

 4                 And in fact it is true that there 

 5    are multiple national and international 

 6    agreements, and there are even voluntary 

 7    agreements by many of the largest corporations 

 8    who say they're not going to source from tropical 

 9    rainforests, and yet they keep doing it.  

10                 So the goal here with this bill is 

11    to clarify that the State of New York -- not 

12    private consumers, but the State of New York, 

13    when it contracts for products, will hold its 

14    suppliers accountable for tracing that they are 

15    not using products from tropical rainforests, 

16    whether it's hardwoods from the rainforests or 

17    other products often grown in the rainforests 

18    once they are destroyed.

19                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

20    Senator.

21                 Madam President, if the Senator will 

22    continue to yield.  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

24    sponsor yield? 

25                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.


                                                               4048

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 2    Senator yields.

 3                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Now, is this 

 4    legislation, is it banning specific hardwoods?  

 5    Or is it banning where they come from?

 6                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   It lists out -- 

 7    it's banning where they come from, but it 

 8    actually helps by providing master lists of 

 9    products that would be added to the existing 

10    banned hardwood list for New York State.  

11                 We actually do have a bill that bans 

12    hardwoods, but it's got too many loopholes in it 

13    for products that we didn't necessarily know 

14    about at the time it was passed.  So it broadens 

15    the number of trees -- types that are covered and 

16    gives the Office of General Services the 

17    authority to continue to expand it.  

18                 Because sometimes -- I know it seems 

19    odd -- but if something is banned, somebody 

20    decides to change the name of the tree.  So we 

21    want to make sure that you can't get around the 

22    laws we are trying to implement by just changing 

23    the name of the product.  

24                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Okay.  So through 

25    you, Madam President, if the Senator will 


                                                               4049

 1    continue to yield.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 3    Senator yield?  

 4                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 6    sponsor yields.

 7                 SENATOR O'MARA:   So I guess I'm 

 8    just asking for a little more clarification on 

 9    whether it's the specific type of wood or whether 

10    it's grown in a certain region.  And if it's a -- 

11    if it's the region, if it's the region, then what 

12    if the same type of wood is grown outside of that 

13    region?  Can that be used? 

14                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Excuse me one 

15    second.  (Pause.)

16                 So it's actually -- I just wanted to 

17    double-check I got this right for you, Senator.  

18    It's both.  It does provide a master list of 

19    specific hardwoods that I actually don't think we 

20    grow here in New York State that would be on the 

21    banned list.  I'm sure they don't.

22                 But it also bans products from 

23    products from areas defined as tropical 

24    rainforests and impacting deforestation of them.  

25    So both.


                                                               4050

 1                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Through you, 

 2    Madam President, if the Senator will continue to 

 3    yield.

 4                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 6    sponsor yields.

 7                 SENATOR O'MARA:   What is the 

 8    specific geographic region that is the subject of 

 9    the ban of the source of these woods?

10                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Let me find the 

11    definition section of the bill for you.  (Pause.)

12                 Big bill.  Page 6, Section (ii)(c): 

13    "'Tropical forests' shall mean a natural 

14    ecosystem within the tropical regions, 

15    approximately bounded geographically by the 

16    tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, but possibly 

17    affected by other factors such as prevailing 

18    winds, containing native species composition, 

19    structure, and ecological function, with a tree 

20    canopy cover of more than 10 percent over an area 

21    of at least 0.5 hectares.  'Tropical forests' 

22    shall include all of the following:  (i) 

23    human-managed tropical forests or partially 

24    degraded tropical forests that are regenerating; 

25    and (ii) tropical forests identified by 


                                                               4051

 1    multi-objective conservation-based assessment 

 2    methodologies, such as High Conservation Value 

 3    (HCV) areas, as defined by the HCV Resource 

 4    Network, or High Carbon Stock forests, as defined 

 5    by the High Carbon Stock Approach, or by another 

 6    methodology with equivalent or higher standards 

 7    that includes primary forests and tropical 

 8    peatlands of any depth.  'Tropical forests' shall 

 9    not include tree plantations of any type."

10                 And then since you were also asking 

11    about tropical hardwood:  "'Tropical hardwood 

12    products' shall mean any wood products, wholesale 

13    or retail, in any form, including but not limited 

14    to plywood, veneer, furniture, cabinets, 

15    paneling, siding, moldings, doors, doorskins, 

16    joinery, flooring or sawnwood, which are 

17    composed, in whole or in part, of tropical 

18    hardwood" from these forests.

19                 I can go on.  It continues on, on 

20    peat and some other products.  

21                 So it's pages -- mostly pages 6, 7, 

22    8, 9 of the bill.

23                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Through you, 

24    Madam President, if the Senator will continue to 

25    yield.


                                                               4052

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 2    Senator yield?  

 3                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 5    Senator yields.  

 6                 SENATOR O'MARA:   So it takes 

 7    pages 6, 7, 8 and 9 of the bill to generally 

 8    describe the regions where these woods come from, 

 9    but they're still using words like 

10    "approximately."  So there's no specific 

11    boundaries and borders that are included in this 

12    legislation as to where the wood specifically 

13    cannot come from.

14                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Well, I do 

15    believe there are borders, although they're not 

16    saying like national borders of a country per se.  

17                 But there are standards that are 

18    being used by various entities around the world.  

19    And within, as pointed out by my colleague, other 

20    laws and treaties around the world.  

21                 So the fact that there's not, you 

22    know, this street in this county is not really 

23    applicable in this situation.

24                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you.  

25                 Madam President, if the Senator will 


                                                               4053

 1    continue to yield.  

 2                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 4    Senator yields.

 5                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Is there any other 

 6    state in the United States of America that has 

 7    such a law as this?

 8                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   That goes as far 

 9    as this?  Madam President, no.  I think we would 

10    proudly be the first state to try it.  

11                 Although the EU has passed a very 

12    parallel law for all the EU countries.  Which is 

13    another reason I think it's so important for 

14    New York State to actually be the first state in 

15    our country to pass a parallel law.  

16                 Why?  Because we have large numbers 

17    of small businesses in New York who absolutely 

18    want to do business with the EU countries.  But 

19    if they don't meet the standards of the EU 

20    countries, they won't be able to sell our 

21    products to them.  

22                 So the fact that even though we're 

23    only applying this to contracts with the State of 

24    New York, it will actually signal and assist 

25    New York State's businesses to meet standards 


                                                               4054

 1    that they would need to in order to sell abroad.  

 2    And we certainly want to expand our export 

 3    markets.

 4                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

 5    Senator.  

 6                 Madam President, if the Senator will 

 7    continue to yield.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 9    Senator yields?

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Yes.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

12    Senator yields.  

13                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Would this apply 

14    to the use of pulp from any of these hardwoods, 

15    and paper purchased by the state?  

16                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

17    Madam President.  Tropical hardwoods are way too 

18    expensive to be used for pulp for paper.  I don't 

19    believe we do have any paper companies in 

20    New York State that use tropical hardwoods for 

21    their paper.  

22                 And in fact what has been pointed 

23    out to me, with our saying you cannot use 

24    tropical hardwoods for contracts with New York 

25    State, you're increasing the likelihood that 


                                                               4055

 1    New York State forestry will be able to sell its 

 2    products to New York.  Because none of our 

 3    forests have these tropical hardwoods.  

 4    Therefore, the kinds of products that our 

 5    companies sell for paper, for wood, for 

 6    furniture, for other purposes, will be more 

 7    competitive in contracting with the State of New 

 8    York because they'll no longer be competing with 

 9    other businesses around the world trying to sell 

10    us tropical hardwoods.  

11                 So I do believe that's a win/win for 

12    our forestry and wood product and paper 

13    companies.

14                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Through you, 

15    Madam President, if the Senator will continue to 

16    yield.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

18    Senator yield?  

19                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

21    Senator yields.

22                 SENATOR O'MARA:   And I certainly 

23    agree with that, Senator Krueger, in limiting the 

24    use of these because of the impacts on the 

25    rainforests and importance of them to the climate 


                                                               4056

 1    around the globe.  My real concerns over this 

 2    legislation is not that we should not be using 

 3    these types of woods, because I agree that we 

 4    shouldn't.

 5                 The real opposition to this has to 

 6    do with how you specifically, you know, identify 

 7    this and how a supplier can actually certify that 

 8    it doesn't contain anything when it might be 

 9    unknowing.  In fact, we have a lot of memos in 

10    opposition from the various lumber dealers 

11    associations across New York State that are very 

12    concerned with this bill, that it mandates that 

13    they certify the source and contents of their 

14    products.  

15                 And they're often small, locally 

16    owned retailers that lack the resources to 

17    establish and maintain compliance offices 

18    necessary to track the global supply chain, 

19    especially for complex products like doors, 

20    windows and similar items comprising numerous 

21    materials from around the world.

22                 I agree with their concerns, 

23    specifically with the general approximation of 

24    the geographic region where these woods cannot 

25    come from.  


                                                               4057

 1                 But this was passed last year, and 

 2    the Governor vetoed it.  And primarily in her 

 3    veto message the Governor stated that the 

 4    extensive certification requirements would impose 

 5    significant burdens on businesses, especially 

 6    small businesses, that want to do business with 

 7    the state.

 8                 So what have you changed in this 

 9    bill to deal with that?  And have you alleviated 

10    the concerns of those suppliers?  Because it 

11    doesn't appear so by the basis of their numerous 

12    memos in opposition.

13                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

14    Madam President.  Thank you so much for that 

15    question.  That's exactly what we did change in 

16    the bill since the Governor's veto.  

17                 And I don't know whose memos are 

18    still objecting.  Perhaps they didn't see the 

19    newer version of the bill.  

20                 These requirements of the bill are 

21    achievable, they're affordable.  The contractors 

22    are not required to be unimpeachably perfect.  

23    And they can of course get exemptions if it's 

24    impossible to find alternative products.  Far 

25    more of the requirements are placed on OGS to 


                                                               4058

 1    assist and approve, not reject, not to make more 

 2    difficult.  

 3                 These new statutes are traceable and 

 4    transparent.  The effective date is pushed back 

 5    to 2027 to give everybody time to figure out any 

 6    of the things they don't think they can figure 

 7    out yet.  

 8                 The leading companies are already 

 9    using now widely available digital technologies 

10    to trace their supply chain.  That's publicly 

11    available, so our smaller companies will be able 

12    to see the data right there produced by larger 

13    companies to help them make sure that they are 

14    also in compliance for their own supply chain.

15                 Supply chain traceability and 

16    transparency does vary among commodities.  But 

17    those covered by this bill are already well 

18    advanced.  

19                 The bill contains a 10 percent 

20    bidding preference for New York-based small and 

21    medium-sized businesses and MWBEs or contractors 

22    fulfilling their contracts.  OGS is required to 

23    meet with stakeholders during the process of 

24    writing their regulations.  We leave the 

25    regulations up to OGS.  We don't mandate those in 


                                                               4059

 1    the bill, so that OGS and the stakeholders can 

 2    work together on regulations that actually will 

 3    be addressable by our small businesses here in 

 4    New York.  

 5                 So we actually will have OGS clearly 

 6    outlining the specific due diligence steps 

 7    contractors are required to take:  Create a list 

 8    of products derived wholly or in part from 

 9    tropical rainforest risk commodities that we 

10    should stay away from.  Create a list of such 

11    products that are able to be procured in high 

12    volumes right here in New York State.  Create a 

13    list of favored suppliers who we know are meeting 

14    the requirements to help our small businesses who 

15    need to go through multiple larger suppliers.  

16                 The bill creates a supply chain 

17    transparency assistance program to assist our 

18    small businesses through the Empire State 

19    Development Corporation.  

20                 So I really do appreciate the 

21    question, because we did a lot of work to hear 

22    from the stakeholders what their concerns were 

23    and to redesign the bill to make sure that it 

24    would not disadvantage businesses in New York 

25    State.  We actually believe it will increase the 


                                                               4060

 1    number of New York State products that are used 

 2    and purchased and contracted with right here at 

 3    home.

 4                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

 5    Senator.

 6                 Through you, Madam President, if the 

 7    Senator will continue to yield.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 9    Senator yield? 

10                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

12    Senator yields.  

13                 SENATOR O'MARA:   I certainly 

14    appreciate the involvement and the input that OGS 

15    and other state entities are going to have here.  

16    But these lumber associations are still very 

17    concerned over knowing themselves where this 

18    comes from.

19                 So since the state and OGS, they're 

20    the ones contracting for those products, why 

21    isn't it incumbent upon the state to verify the 

22    products?  The contractor provides the products 

23    that they're supplying, and the state verifies 

24    that those are not in violation of the rainforest 

25    woods?


                                                               4061

 1                 (Pause.)

 2                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

 3    Madam President.  Again, I think perhaps the 

 4    companies that the Senator has been speaking to 

 5    perhaps don't quite understand the role and 

 6    responsibility of OGS and the state to help make 

 7    sure all of this is addressed correctly.  

 8                 And again, specifically for people 

 9    who are in the forestry and wood business here in 

10    New York State, none of this is tropical 

11    hardwoods.  None of their business is tropical 

12    hardwoods.  We don't grow tropical hardwoods in 

13    New York.  

14                 So it's not going to stop them from 

15    selling to the State of New York.  It will 

16    actually probably increase the number of 

17    companies who source through New York forestry.  

18    Because if you're sourcing through New York 

19    forestry, there's very little you have to do to 

20    prove you're not using tropical rainforest wood.  

21    We don't grow that here in New York.

22                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

23    Senator.

24                 On the bill, Madam President.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 


                                                               4062

 1    O'Mara on the bill.

 2                 SENATOR O'MARA:   I'm certainly 

 3    extremely supportive of banning and limiting to 

 4    the extent possible the use of hardwoods from 

 5    rainforests, and understand the importance of our 

 6    rainforests to our global climate and 

 7    environment.

 8                 I think this bill goes too far and 

 9    it puts the onus on the wrong spot.  If we're 

10    banning the use of these materials, then it 

11    should be the entity using those materials to 

12    certify for themselves that they're not coming 

13    from the sources that we don't want them to come 

14    from.  And I think that should lie upon the 

15    state.  And if the OGS is going to be as involved 

16    as the Senator says they're going to be, then 

17    there's just one more step they have to do.  

18    Because the lumber dealers and others in the 

19    state are very concerned with really unwittingly, 

20    unknowingly supplying a product that might 

21    contain some aspect of these woods because of the 

22    global supply chains that are involved with these 

23    products to be listed.

24                 And that's kind of a trapdoor for 

25    these small businesses in many cases that do not 


                                                               4063

 1    have the wherewithal to go through this whole 

 2    review and certification process, despite their 

 3    best intentions on this.

 4                 And if this is the big concern of 

 5    the state, then they should be making sure -- 

 6    make the suppliers and the contractors show the 

 7    state where they purchase these things from, 

 8    where they come from, and the state can do their 

 9    due diligence on whether that's an acceptable 

10    product or not.  

11                 Because mistakes can be made.  And, 

12    you know, with these remaining concerns here and 

13    on the hardwoods -- and, you know, I would note 

14    on this as well, not to get back into questioning 

15    again, but this very bill leaves out exceptions 

16    for the use of these types of woods for the 

17    Metropolitan Transportation Authority and the 

18    ferry services which would allow them to continue 

19    to purchase these types of products.  

20                 So this is not as cut and dried as 

21    we would like it to be.  And really the onus here 

22    should be on the person, in this case the entity, 

23    the State of New York, that's going to be 

24    actually utilizing that product, on verifying for 

25    themselves that it's not being sourced through 


                                                               4064

 1    that.  Because of the very intricate global 

 2    supply systems that there are, it can be very 

 3    well unknown that there might be a component of a 

 4    window, a door, what have you -- a fixture, desk, 

 5    chair -- that might have some component that 

 6    somehow came from this unspecifically defined 

 7    rainforest area.

 8                 So based on that, I am encouraging a 

 9    no vote on this.  The onus should be on the state 

10    to verify this.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Are 

12    there any other Senators wishing to be heard?  

13                 Senator Krueger on the bill.

14                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   I appreciate my 

15    colleague's questions.  I wish he had asked many 

16    more, because there is so much I want to say 

17    about this bill.  

18                 But I'll just say, briefly, globally 

19    an estimated 18 million acres of tropical 

20    rainforest, an area more than half the size of 

21    New York State -- half the size of New York 

22    State -- are lost every year to deforestation in 

23    the world, with over one-half of the earth's 

24    tropical hardwoods already gone.  At the current 

25    pace, the entirety of the earth's tropical 


                                                               4065

 1    rainforests will be degraded or destroyed within 

 2    the next hundred years.  An estimated 20 percent 

 3    of the world's greenhouse gas emissions come from 

 4    deforestation and forest degradation.  

 5                 So taking into account carbon 

 6    sequestration, a potential stop in the loss of 

 7    tropical forests, mangroves, other wetlands could 

 8    provide over 20 percent of necessary climate 

 9    mitigation by the year 2030, which is just around 

10    the corner.  This loss of biodiversity is 

11    creating nightmares throughout the world.

12                 In addition to tropical 

13    deforestation, in many countries it is closely 

14    associated with violations of the land rights of 

15    indigenous peoples and local communities and with 

16    the exploitation of workers, including forced 

17    labor and child labor.  In many cases it is 

18    enabled by corruption, criminality, and violence 

19    against the conservationists and the land 

20    defenders.  

21                 The concerns my colleague has 

22    brought up we factored into this bill.  Yes, we 

23    made an exception for the MTA and for the 

24    Staten Island Ferry for five years, to allow them 

25    to transition off of two specific hardwoods that 


                                                               4066

 1    are uniquely suited for being in water all the 

 2    time.  But there are alternatives.  And they have 

 3    agreed that within five years they can figure it 

 4    out.

 5                 This bill allows localities and 

 6    government to have an exemption from the 

 7    requirements if nobody's bidding because they 

 8    can't figure out what to sell us.  So we do give 

 9    the state the ability to say, Okay, I get it, you 

10    need an exemption also.  You need an alternative.  

11    We'll help you with that.  

12                 This bill is absolutely not designed 

13    to penalize people who are trying to sell to 

14    New York State, but rather to assist and put in 

15    place the details so that they can, as my 

16    colleague pointed out, have the information they 

17    need provided by government in most cases so that 

18    they don't have to worry about doing all that 

19    homework themselves.  

20                 Every time we talk about 

21    environmental bills on this chamber floor we get 

22    to some degree an argument "It's too much, we 

23    can't do all this."  Well, here's the problem.  

24    We have to do this.  Because the U.S. companies 

25    actually are responsible for like 50 percent of 


                                                               4067

 1    the deforestation in the planet.  

 2                 We'll pay the price for that, even 

 3    though it's so far away, because tropical 

 4    hardwoods are not being grown near here, the 

 5    deforestation is not taking place here.  The 

 6    deforestation is destroying other countries 

 7    around the world -- who, by the way, when their 

 8    land is destroyed, when their environment is 

 9    destroyed, when they have no alternative places 

10    to go, where are they going?  They're coming 

11    here.  

12                 If you look at the deforestation in 

13    Venezuela, it's enormous.  If you look at the 

14    damage that has been done to their economies, to 

15    their indigenous peoples, they have nowhere to 

16    survive in their own countries because of damage 

17    done because of our policies.  And yet we object 

18    and wonder why they show up in the 

19    United States -- because we're helping to cause 

20    chaos in their home countries.  

21                 And so this isn't affecting private 

22    consumers.  We're not going there.  We're saying 

23    if you're going to do business with the State of 

24    New York, we've want to make sure you're not 

25    adding to this international crisis.


                                                               4068

 1                 And guess what?  If you look at a 

 2    contract with OGS, who handles most of the 

 3    contracting for the buying and selling of 

 4    products by the State of New York, you can't 

 5    believe the number of requirements we're putting 

 6    on anybody who does business with New York -- 

 7    pages and pages and pages of requirements.  

 8                 This isn't even a particularly 

 9    difficult one for our potential contractors to 

10    meet.  And yet it's a critical one for the entire 

11    planet.  So I urge my colleagues to consider not 

12    taking a no vote today and helping us address 

13    multiple problems all at once while ensuring more 

14    New York State products can be sold both to the 

15    State of New York and around the world, as the 

16    rest of the world is implementing these laws.  

17    I'm hoping for a yes vote from everyone.  

18                 Thank you, Madam President.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

20    you, Senator.

21                 Senator Borrello.

22                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   On the bill, 

23    Madam President.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

25    Borrello on the bill.


                                                               4069

 1                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   I appreciate 

 2    what Senator Krueger said.  But unfortunately 

 3    it's a bit disingenuous.  

 4                 I would really encourage you to 

 5    watch the movie Planet of the Humans, by 

 6    Michael Moore -- not exactly a conservative -- 

 7    where he describes in depth the destruction 

 8    that's going on throughout the rainforest area 

 9    for the production of solar panels and wind 

10    turbines, particularly for mining for rare earth 

11    metals, that's taking place with slave labor, 

12    child labor.  

13                 So when you drive that electric car, 

14    remember that those rare-earth metals inside that 

15    battery were actually mined by a child somewhere 

16    in the Congo.  So this is just hypocrisy.  

17                 What's worse about it is that 

18    everything that we need to make solar panels and 

19    wind turbines can be produced here in the 

20    United States.  The rare earth metals can be 

21    actually mined out in the Midwest and up in 

22    Canada with obviously union labor and everything 

23    else.  But yet we continue to have these panels 

24    dumped in the United States after being made by 

25    slave labor in China by the Uyghurs, who are 


                                                               4070

 1    enslaved by the Chinese government to make those 

 2    solar panels.  

 3                 So to sit here and listen to the 

 4    fact that we're going to save the rainforest -- 

 5    only when it comes to hardwood, not when it comes 

 6    to everything else -- particularly because we 

 7    have a viable alternative that would create good 

 8    union jobs here in the United States.  We're not 

 9    doing that.  We're actually -- in fact, right now 

10    in the City of Buffalo, at the billion-dollars 

11    boondoggle known as the Tesla plant, the solar 

12    panels on the roof, which were supposed to be 

13    produced by Tesla, are made in China.  And 

14    they're actually installed on the roof of that 

15    billion-dollar boondoggle in Buffalo.  

16                 So spare me the hypocrisy.  I'll be 

17    voting no.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

19    Krueger.

20                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   So I thank my 

21    colleague.  I don't actually think his argument 

22    is against my bill; it's for an expansion of my 

23    bill to cover products that we didn't talk about 

24    today.  

25                 So my bill covers far more than 


                                                               4071

 1    tropical hardwoods.  We just seemed to get onto 

 2    that theme.  But if my colleague would like to 

 3    talk about moving bills that protect other parts 

 4    of the world from exploitation of children and 

 5    their areas so that we can buy our products from 

 6    U.S.-sourced goods that meet other standards, and 

 7    we want to create a new bill to do that, I'm 

 8    totally with him on that.  

 9                 So thank you.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Are 

11    there any other Senators wishing to be heard?

12                 UNIDENTIFIED MEMBER:   No.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

14    you.  

15                 (Laughter.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Seeing 

17    and hearing none, the debate is closed.

18                 Senator Serrano.

19                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Madam President, 

20    upon consent we've agreed to restore this bill to 

21    the noncontroversial calendar.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

23    will be restored to the noncontroversial 

24    calendar.

25                 Read the last section.


                                                               4072

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

 2    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 3    shall have become a law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 8    May to explain her vote.

 9                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

10    Madam President.  

11                 I want to thank the bill's sponsor 

12    for this bill and for her eloquent defense of 

13    this bill.  It is really important that New York 

14    State taxpayers are not subsidizing further 

15    degradation of the rainforests, which are the 

16    lungs of Planet Earth.

17                 I'm also proud that we're doing this 

18    today on the day after the next largest state in 

19    the country, their governor signed into law 

20    expunging the term "climate change" from their 

21    laws and really moving backwards on green energy 

22    and the whole idea that we might want to take 

23    action on the climate crisis.  

24                 So I'm proud that we in New York are 

25    doing this.  I'm grateful to my colleagues who 


                                                               4073

 1    are voting in the affirmative.  And I vote aye.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 3    May to be recorded in the affirmative.

 4                 Announce the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 927, those Senators voting in the 

 7    negative are Senators Ashby, Borrello, 

 8    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

 9    Lanza, Martins, Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, 

10    O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, 

11    Tedisco, Weber and Weik.

12                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 20.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 Senator Serrano, that completes the 

16    reading of today's calendar.

17                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Is there any 

18    further business at the desk?

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

20    no further business at the desk.

21                 SENATOR SERRANO:   I move to adjourn 

22    until Monday, May 20th, at 3:00 p.m., with the 

23    intervening days being legislative days.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   On 

25    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until Monday, 


                                                               4074

 1    May 20th, at 3:00 p.m., with intervening days 

 2    being legislative days.

 3                 (Whereupon, at 12:21 p.m., the 

 4    Senate adjourned.)

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